Monday 23 June 2008

Prostate Cancer

Private/Rest of Western World Approach:

Prostate brachytherapy

NHS Approach:

Wait and see or Brutal surgery

Dont get an unfashionable cancer in Browns Britain or you will be filling up a box under the ground

12 comments:

niku said...

outcomes here are crap. Don't get me wrong, Brown is an embarrassment, but he has less to do with crap outcomes than do the employee's of the NHS.

I think the outcome comparison should be done between private healthcare in the UK and the NHS. Would be interesting to learn if there is a difference among the same practitioners in a different environment. I suspect that private outcomes will be much better if only because intervention is at a far earlier stage in the disease.

However you cut the cake it is a shit system in need of significant modernisation. Previous post is exactly right. At least when you are dissatisfied with dental care you have a choice of dentists. Should do the same thing with GP's ASAP.

Anonymous said...

NewsmaxTV's Ashley Martella reports that a man who underwent injection of his own immune cells has been in an astonishing amount of time!

Anonymous said...

For goodness sake niku, you have the most warped view of doctors I have ever known.

Doctor Crippen had an interesting post about this entitled "Why we should all read the "Daily Mail"".

I have to admit I'm beginning to get a bit sick of all the breast cancer fundraising going on - let's be honest, it not only has a cure but it also has a very good prognosis. And as cancer treatment goes, it doesn't even take very log to treat. You can be in and out in 6 months. Compare that to, say, leukaemia which takes closer to 4 years. It's not that I don't think breast cancer needs the money, but I think other "less fashionable" diseases need it much more.

Doc Doc said...

Brachytherapy is available through the NHS but it is no better then HIFU, Green Light Laser or Injection therapy for differing situations. Horses for Courses.

BUPA recently advertised saying their hospitals were free from MRSA. Not actually true.

Intervention in private hospitals will be earlier but also the number of unnecessary investigations, time and money, exposure to radiation, side effects, allergic reactions.

If you were to see a consultant privately for belly ache, would you really want cameras inserted rectally/orally and CT scan (lots of radiation), straight away or a course of mebeverine for IBS.

niku said...

I would imagine this won't last long in Rugabe land:

Give me strength! Rugabe is such an asshole because only he can predict what will happen in the future and people should listen! What a load of festering shit. Do you sit on the toilet dump a load and see the future????? You are such an arrogant fuck.

And to the point of "Oh, Rugabe wails here because doctors don't have anywhere else to complain boo hoo hoo, You know patients always treat us badly and we have to fend off 4 to 5 attempts to kills us a day. And the Rugabe blog is a parallel universe where everything we say is true and everything you say is false." Fuck off, you lead some of the most privileged lives on the planet. You can't package post after self-serving post as some type of physco bable based relief valve. If an airline pilot had a blog like this the CAA would hunt him down and subject him to a physiological exam to see if he was fit to fly.

Just to prove you are a fraud, can't stand criticism, are completely full of shit but most of all a hypocrite, delete away Rugabe.

You must be self-medicating. Badly

No One said...

re "Brachytherapy is available through the NHS" what for middle class suburbia somewhere? or if youre a fucking MP?

like the heart ops Dennis Skinner and the speaker, and indeed Blair himself had, these are not for the common folk

Brachytherapy is NOT available in practise for most in the NHS, rather a long painful death, wasted spine, etc is what happens in Browns Brtain and the medics are nothing more than accesories to the butchery

Doc Doc said...

Brachytherapy is available on nhs, 5 of my patients have received it. Admittedly they had to travel to Leeds to receive it, but the service and treatment is there.

As mentioned before 4 other options with better outcomes available anyway so not really the treatment of choice for Ca prostate, people are not left to rot and died. Grow up!

No One said...

re "but the service and treatment is there." well wot complete bollocks, get yourself to some of the poorer parts of the country, have a glass of wine with the consultants, and look me in the eye and tell me this

its there in rare examples, and nowhere near as many cases get it as medical need would dictate

and yes people are left to rot and die with little but pain relief i have 1st hand experience

you medics should not fucking put up with it, and pretending all is well is either fantasy based on incomplete view of the situation in the country or evil

Doc Doc said...

Am just correcting your untruth.

Think you need to go and take your medication and have a good nights sleep.

Anonymous said...

well i saw a surgeon on TV complaining about this very topic, so its hardly top secret, thats all the evidence needed

and of course as i say i have first hand experience of how crap the siutaion is from the patients point of view

nob head, if you want to defend the nhs you will have to do a lot better than that

Doc Doc said...

Didn't say it was readily available just that it was available in certain places, contrary to what had been claimed.

So much anger.

Anonymous said...

of course im angry i have friends DYING for lack of basic treatment that would be provided in ANY OTHER WESTERN NATION how do you expect us to feel?